Whether Boston lands the 2024 Summer Olympics or doesn't, the fight over the push to bring the games to Massachusetts is the defining political battle of the moment-- and a fascinating case study in the uses and limits of power.

The vast majority of the political and financial class is staunchly in favor of Boston's Olympic bid, from mega-developer John Fish to Boston Mayor Marty Walsh to former Governor Deval Patrick. Other notable figures have skeptical to non-committal, including Governor Charlie Baker. But some of the most vocal opposition, at least so far, has come from the group No Boston Olympics, a collection of volunteers that's been waging what looks like an unwinnable fight.

The Scrum headed to Boston City Hall this week to sit down with two of No Boston Olympics' leaders, Chris Dempsey and Kelley Gossett, and find out what's driving them-- and why they think they have a chance to succeed. Listen to the conversation above, and let us know what you think in the comments section below.

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